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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:47 am 
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How does Randy get his pull-offs to squeal in "I Don't Know" and "Crazy Train"? Is he doing a pinch harmonic on the picked notes? Is he stomping on an effect? The sound he gets on them is near the top of my list of favorite Randy sounds.


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Yes, its a combination of pinch harmonics and pull offs. Randy was playing off pure feel for those licks. :) Its not a full on squeal, but if you mess around with it enough you'll get the feel for it.


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Thanks for that confirmation. It will help me practice them the right way. I've been in awe of Randy's ability to execute those pull-offs with such attitude and precision ever since I bought Blizzard of Ozz the day it came out in 1981. It's a big part of the reason I bought a guitar and started playing.


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Yeah i still struggle with that pull off thing on crazy train. Randy does it with great speed and accuracy.

The one that has 4th, 2nd and open string pull off.


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MattC wrote:
Yeah i still struggle with that pull off thing on crazy train. Randy does it with great speed and accuracy.

The one that has 4th, 2nd and open string pull off.


I think you mean the ones you do the 4p2p0 while passing your right hand slightly through the strings to create the harmonics...hope I explained myself right.

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its just really a really really light A.H how he creates it.


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IvanV wrote:
MattC wrote:
Yeah i still struggle with that pull off thing on crazy train. Randy does it with great speed and accuracy.

The one that has 4th, 2nd and open string pull off.


I think you mean the ones you do the 4p2p0 while passing your right hand slightly through the strings to create the harmonics...hope I explained myself right.

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Yeah thats the one, just no way as good as Randy. :wink:


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Yeah, I'm in awe of Randy's 4p2p0 in Crazy Train. He also manages to get it sounding great in that famous audio lesson he gave to a group of students just before his passing. He's just using a Distortion+ and what sounds to me like a practice amp. A prime example that it's in his fingers. He could make it sound amazing on any gear.


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It looks like Randy plays the pull-off lick pretty agressively in the After Hours video.


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pick angle and slight pinch and its easily achieved


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Thanks for the pick angle tip. I didn't think to experiment with that.


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Thanks for the pick angle tip. I didn't think to experiment with that.
Thats just his picking style, he used a really steep angle on the lower strings while soloing, it really gave it that unique type of sound.


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Try different spots over the pickups also..you get different tones depending where you pick from..Cort


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Good point. Gotta know where the "sweet spots" are.


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:wink: Randy also got his feedback in control quite nicely, well- it squels definitely..like he says in that seminar! I hope my tape version of seminar doesn´t wear out, years old and listened to it...quite a lot!

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I know that this isn't the way the technique is normally executed, but I've had a lot of success pulling these types of squeals off by dropping my pick hand ring finger down to lightly touch the string when I attack it, as opposed to using the fleshy part of my thumb.
This technique (at least for me) makes it easier to sound the squeals as part of a higher speed lick.


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'Raking' into the first note on the B string is important too. :wink:


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http://media.putfile.com/decent-attempt-at-crazy-train


how did i do at it?

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 Post subject: Re: Randy's squealing pull-offs
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i read something, most likely from the seminar randy did, where he says he plays a part of the solo (i think from revelation) using the edge of his pick to make it sound an octave higher. was randy refering to artificial harmonics?

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Shockwave wrote:
ehamady wrote:
Thanks for the pick angle tip. I didn't think to experiment with that.
Thats just his picking style, he used a really steep angle on the lower strings while soloing, it really gave it that unique type of sound.

try allot of distotion too, he said that whenever he let go of the guitar it would feedback.

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Peter wrote:
Shockwave wrote:
ehamady wrote:
Thanks for the pick angle tip. I didn't think to experiment with that.
Thats just his picking style, he used a really steep angle on the lower strings while soloing, it really gave it that unique type of sound.

try allot of distotion too, he said that whenever he let go of the guitar it would feedback.


Oh, Thanks man for that tip, never rly thought on it... Gonna crank my pedals now :D

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