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 Post subject: Who let Steve Vai into Alcatrazz ?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:27 am 
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I really dig the instrumentalist Steve Vai.

Even though he got his break replacing Yngwie in Alcatrazz,
this just sounds wrong ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDF9qA2JUxU
compared to this ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oli8rM90Ek.


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 Post subject: Re: Who let Steve Vai into Alcatrazz ?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:16 pm 
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He got his break by being tapped by Frank Zappa to join his band. Frank referred to him as his "Little Italian Virtuoso". Steve was corresponding with Frank while he was still studying music in college.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:33 am 
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MZA wrote:
Even though he got his break replacing Yngwie in Alcatrazz,
this just sounds wrong ...

:lol:
Yeah, I agree - two totally different styles. But I loved the Alcatrazz 'Disturbing the Peace' album as much as the ones with Yngwie. Vai was allowed to be Vai on that one and it was cool.


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As munk said, Vai's break came from playing with Frank Zappa as a teenager. That's what opened the doors of the music industry to him. :wink:

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:45 pm 
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regardless of where he got his break.
this thread was supposed to be about Steves horrible
rendition of Hiroshima Mon Amour compared to Yngwie.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:57 pm 
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MZA wrote:
regardless of where he got his break.
this thread was supposed to be about Steves horrible
rendition of Hiroshima Mon Amour compared to Yngwie.



Steve broke a string during the begining (around he 1:35 mark) which is why his playing suddenly sounded all weird and out of key. He started pulling on the bar in an attempt to compesate for the sudden and drastic change in string tension and suddenly being completly out of tune.

Popping a string on a guitar with a Floyd Rose, Kahler, etc., will suddenly throw the whole guitar out of tune due to the fact that it is a floating bridge, which uses a perfect balance of string tension vs. spring tension. So having a string break will suddenly throw that perfect balance completely off. The end result being a horribly out of tune guitar. You will notice during the first verse there is no guitar heard at all, this is because his tech is swapping guitars with Steve. The next time we see and hear Steve you will notice he is playing a completly different guitar.

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 Post subject: Re: Who let Steve Vai into Alcatrazz ?
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What LoQ said.
To be perfectly honest I didn't find either player all that great on these songs. Widdley Diddley.

I love some of Steves work, and even enjoy a tiny little bit of Malmsteen sometimes, but both here were kind of bland speed.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:44 am 
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Mr.Coneman wrote:
To be perfectly honest I didn't find either player all that great on these songs.


OK I admit I didn't watch the Yng video before posting and compared to what he played on the album, it's pretty bad, too - and Graham Bonnet's wailing doesn't help either. On the studio version Yngwie's playing is much more passionate and melodic.


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